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 Post subject: THE BIG PROBLEM
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:34 pm 
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Really I not understand many people. And 1 is in spain also use a2billing (but is germany nationality)

for law in Europe and US any company make any sell need to make one stamen or Bill.

What happens ?

Only the 25% of Carriers and small Voip providers make any bill to the costumers.

Is not possible you buy 1000$ in calls and not get any bill.

I think is better for legal question never get any service for any provider not make any bill.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:41 am 
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Huh ?? What happened, did someone rip you off or ?? You seem to be talking about something without saying it.


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 Post subject: Re: THE BIG PROBLEM
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:49 am 
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gineta wrote:
I think is better for legal question never get any service for any provider not make any bill.
I read this part to mean: you can't purchase from carriers who don't provide invoices, as you cannot fulfill your own legal obligations without such paperwork.

I am unsure what this has to do with A2B in particular.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:26 am 
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YOu think a2billing work also with any law.

1.- First not print in the pdf the company or user , adress, vat , etc

2.- Not print the company and VAT of the comapny is selling. But this I solve with 1 draw

A2billing have points very missing and one is the VAT in the billing and print one pdf like is any bill of BT (examples)

I think you not read the new law from OFCOM about the bills or stament need to make any telephone or Voip provider.

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krzykat wrote:
Huh ?? What happened, did someone rip you off or ?? You seem to be talking about something without saying it.


What happened is all this US company's make a clear violation of consumers and legal violation of the obligation have in the own country.

What happens if in US any complain in the Internal Revenue Service United States Department of the Treasury .

You think is funny 8) I think much


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he is talking about me... but i did never do any business with him.

i only sent a pdf file with rates.

since we had some technical problems i could not continue with anyone
that asked for a SIMPLE rates list.

ofcourse everyone will get company informations when he will get
a mail from me where he has to login and make his account.

as soon as all problems are solved (technically and website) i will
send an email to all that contacted me.

but gineta, i dont know if i want to continue with an always complaining guy like you... sorry for this hard word.

and what is your problem with my nationality? you got any problems with
germans? are you a racist?

i can live whereever i want to. it does not matter if its spain or not.

i did not ask you one time about doing business with us.

cheers


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:45 am 
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THis is funny
YOu not are the german guy I means

racist not for nothing.
And if you have legal company and make staments or bills I am very happy traiding with you



microcosmic wrote:
he is talking about me... but i did never do any business with him.

i only sent a pdf file with rates.

since we had some technical problems i could not continue with anyone
that asked for a SIMPLE rates list.

ofcourse everyone will get company informations when he will get
a mail from me where he has to login and make his account.

as soon as all problems are solved (technically and website) i will
send an email to all that contacted me.

but gineta, i dont know if i want to continue with an always complaining guy like you... sorry for this hard word.

and what is your problem with my nationality? you got any problems with
germans? are you a racist?

i can live whereever i want to. it does not matter if its spain or not.

i did not ask you one time about doing business with us.

cheers
:wink: :roll:


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OK cool - I knew he was stepping around something and glad you came out and clarified it. You know I was interested in what you got also, so please keep me updated as well.

I think this really had nothing at all to do with A2B.

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:53 am 
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yes i will.

my plan is to start website latest on next monday. i will not use the signup from a2b, i will make my own formular for that.

the problem was the TELES iSWiTCH s500 and the sending of the correct informations between both sides. for example we had problems with the BYE signal (solved) and some problems with the ringtone (solved).

and yes, you will get a BILL when you do a payment. god damnit.


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krzykat wrote:
OK cool - I knew he was stepping around something and glad you came out and clarified it. You know I was interested in what you got also, so please keep me updated as well.

I think this really had nothing at all to do with A2B.

Thanks.


I think the problem with other providers is not problem with a2billing. But a2billing software also not make the correct Bill to any user. And this problem I think is one question for solve in future versions.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:09 pm 
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Can you perhaps help us out on what you mean by posting let us say 2 PDF files? One that is a bill done by A2B which you say is incorrect, and then make another one of that same bill with modifications that show how A2B SHOULD be done according to your ideas ?? Then we could all have a better idea of whta you mean.


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krzykat wrote:
Can you perhaps help us out on what you mean by posting let us say 2 PDF files? One that is a bill done by A2B which you say is incorrect, and then make another one of that same bill with modifications that show how A2B SHOULD be done according to your ideas ?? Then we could all have a better idea of whta you mean.


IDEAS not LAW seam like is in US and Europe. Other ideas is not a really billing system

Telecoms is the first companys violate the law . Here i post to you how VERIZON have one federal investigation for this.

Any company or provider of software of billing system is subject in more of the country's for provider the correct stamen's. This is also for US and UK

ABout the correct Bill I go to post after again the correct BILL provide for BT
AHHH
OTHER question VERY THANKS for DISABLE my options for ATTACH files
This explaine many thinks

URL TO THE ROUND BILL of VERIZON
http://www.newnetworks.com/dirtyphonebill.htm


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